Since most non-1-Series Canon EOS camera bodies need a max aperture of f/5.6 or wider to autofocus, losing 2 stops of max aperture pushes f/4 and narrower lenses past their ability to autofocus. At review time, only Canon 1-Series camera bodies can autofocus (using the center AF point only) an f/8 max aperture lens and extender combination. Some of the extender-compatible lenses start with an f/5.6 max aperture and cannot autofocus even on 1-Series bodies with a 2x Extender mounted. The lens and extender combo can always be used in manual focus mode, but a narrow max aperture (f/11 for the f/5.6 lenses) creates a very dark viewfinder that makes manual focusing difficult.