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[Persian]

دقیقا وبعدش ما ایرونی ها بیچاره ایم : عید بازاریها میشه : فول فریم تولیدژاپن به عنوان اصلی باقیمت بالاترفروخته میشه وخریداربیچاره هم بایدمدام مواظب باشه که با قیمت بالاتر،تولیدمالزی رو بهش نفروشن.

احتمال بسیار کمی دارد که کنون یا نیکون یک دوربین اس ال ار را در دو کارخانه ژاپنی و غیر ژاپنی به طور هم زمان تولید کنند. تنها موردی که من در این چند سال دیدم دوربین های رده A کنون بود که من یک A530 از مالزی خریدم که ساخت مالزی بود و در ایران هم مدل مشابه چینی را داشت (البته چینی به معنای کنون نه چین تقلبی). در نهایت زمانی که یک برند معتبر را میخرید هیچ فرقی نمیکند که در کجا تولید شود.

[Anoosh-Em]

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پیش بینی های تام هوگان برای بدنه های نیکون ، برای 2011 و 2012 :








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[king4]

خوب وقتش رسیده یکم هیجان‌زده بشیم! البته فقط شایعه است و بیشتر جنبه تفریحی داره خوندنش :biggrin:
مطالب کامل رو از طریق لینک ببینید.

http://nikonrumors.com/2011/06/02/re...px/#more-20601

Nikon D400
Sensor: 24 Megapixel APS-C CMOS sensor (Bayer type or new type 1-layer sensor which do not have Bayer filter but anyway needs three pixels to create any color. This new type will be better at high sensitivies)
Sensor made by: Nikon…..
Sensor filtering: Nothing (IR and AA filters are detachable and they are in a detachable lens
mount module)
And that lens mount module: Detachable and including two filter slots for carrying example of Anti-Aliasation and Infrared filters or what you want to mount over your sensor? Detachable lens mount module is also useful for easy cleaning of sensor and prism too….. (personally i don’t want any aliasation to make photo unsharp while i can remove moire in photo manipulation or unuseful light decreasing traditional fysical IR filter, cause i prefer to remove IR frequences directly from sensor if i don’t want IR pictures)
Prism: Standard moving prism with Multi-Shot mode (more than 1 exposures in 1 prism move, user selectable number of exposures around 1-9 exposures, 1-12 with grip and ENX-1 battery)
Dynamic range: Over 14 F-Stops
Sensitivity: 100-51200 ISO (Boost 50, 102400, 204800, 409600) (IQ* over 2 stops better than D3s)
Autofocus sensor: 201 points MultiCAM-5000DX (all points cross type, huh) or it’s possible AF can be a completely new type? That AF systems have many AF-servo features like 1DmkIV…..
Light metering: New type 24 Megapixel light metering sensor (this is a surprise!)
Exposure modes: P,A,S,M,PM,AM,SM (in PM,AM and SM you can manually set what shutter speed and aperture ranges program can be use. Example of PM-mode. 1/20-1/500sec and apertures f/2.8-8 while the lens itself can be use aperture from f/1.4 to f/22 (example). Shortly you can set what speeds and apertures can be used in program. And now Automatic ISO is allowed to use in all metering modes even in the full manual.)
Shutter: Focal plane shutter with speeds from 60sec to 1/16000sec, Bulb, Time (probably metal shutter rated over million exposures)
Shutter lag: 20ms
Framerate: 9 frames/sec (12 frames/sec with new MB-D20 battery grip and ENX-1 battery)
Camera buffer: Over 4 Gigabytes
Video recording: 30frames/sec UHD 3840x2160p & HD 1920x1080p quality AVCHD video
Flash sync: Up to 1/250sec X-sync and Nikon High Speed Sync up to 1/16000sec
Infrared sensitivity range: Up to 900Nm for full Infrared photography compatibility
Infrared sensitivity range set: You can manually set what red sensitivity range the sensor records. Eg. you can take genuine Infrared pictures without using any filter with sensor by setting the
red sensitivity range to example of 650-900Nm. And you can take standard pictures simply by set the max red sensitivity to Around 550Nm. Its highly possible the camera have an
own standard mode in the menu for easy setting to no IR senzitisation.
Memory: Two CompactFlash card slots and one standard USB3.0 port on the camera right side for moving the photos and videos to memory stick or hard disk or shooting to them directly
Other features:
Autofocus and Light metering servo features
Additionally the old AI/AI-S lens connectors for metering
In camera moire remove feature while shooting samelike as noise remove (Off, Lo, Md, Hi)
Thunderbolt High Speed I/O
Integrated GPS
Integrated Wi-Fi for uploading pictures, remote controllers, setting cameras settings from computer, for flash controlling etc…..
The camera uses new 2500mAh ENX-10 Lithium Polymer battery
New user and menu interfaces
Shutter release now selectable for any user set button
Weight: Around 1000g without battery, memory card or body cap
Release date: 4th quarter of 2011 or 1st quarter of 2012
Price: ?


Nikon D4
Sensor: 18 Megapixel full size CMOS sensor (Bayer type or new type 1-layer sensor which do not have Bayer filter but anyway needs three pixels to create any color. This new type will be better at high sensitivies)
Sensor made by: Nikon…..
Sensor filtering: Nothing (IR and AA filters are detachable and they are in detachable lens
mount module)
And that lens mount module: Detachable and including two filter slots for carrying example
of Anti-Aliasation and Infrared filters or what you want to mount over your sensor?
Detachable lens mount module is also useful for easy cleaning of sensor and prism too….. (personally i don’t want any aliasation to make photo unsharp while i can remove moire in photo manipulation or unuseful light decreasing traditional fysical IR filter, cause i prefer to remove IR frequences directly from sensor if i don’t want IR pictures)
Prism: Standard moving prism with Multi-Shot mode (more than 1 exposures in 1 prism move, user selectable number of exposures around 1-12 exposures, except over 12 frames/sec its mininum of 2)
Dynamic range: Over 16 F-Stops
Sensitivity: 100-409600 ISO (Boost 25, 50, 819200 and even the unbelievable 1638400) (IQ* over 5 stops better than D3s, personally i will not believe that, sounds impossible)
Autofocus sensor: 201 points MultiCAM-5000FX (all points cross type, huh) or it’s possible AF can be a completely new type? That AF systems have many AF-servo features like 1DmkIV…..
Light metering: New type 18 Megapixel light metering sensor (this is a surprise!)
Shooting modes: P,A,S,M,PM,AM,SM (in PM,AM and SM you can manually set what shutter speed and aperture ranges program can be use. Example PM 1/20-1/500sec and apertures f/2.8-8 while the lens itself can be use aperture from f/1.4 to f/22 (example). Shortly you can set what speeds and apertures can be used in program. And now Automatic ISO is allowed to use in all metering modes even in the full manual.)
Shutter speeds: 60-1/16000sec, Bulb, Time (probably metal shutter rated over million exposures)
Shutter lag: 20ms
Framerate: 12 frames/sec (18 frames/sec in Multi-Shot mode)
Camera buffer: Over 4 Gigabytes
Video recording: 30frames/sec UHD 3840x2160p & HD 1920x1080p quality AVCHD video
Flash sync: Up to 1/250sec X-sync and Nikon High Speed Sync up to 1/16000sec
Infrared sensitivity range: Up to 900Nm for full Infrared photography compatibility
Infrared sensitivity range set: You can manually set what red sensitivity range the sensor records. Eg. you can take genuine Infrared pictures without using any filter with sensor by setting the red sensitivity range to example of 650-900Nm. And you can take standard pictures simply by set the max red sensitivity to Around 550Nm. Its highly possible the camera have an own standard mode in the menu for easy setting to no IR senzitisation.
Memory: Two CompactFlash card slots and one standard USB3.0 port on the camera right side for moving the photos and videos to memory stick or hard disk or shooting to them directly
Other features:
Autofocus and Light metering servo features
Additionally the old AI/AI-S lens connectors for metering
In camera moire remove feature while shooting samelike as noise remove (Off, Lo, Md, Hi)
Integrated grip
Thunderbolt High Speed I/O
Integrated GPS
Integrated Wi-Fi for uploading pictures, remote controllers, setting cameras settings from computer, for flash controlling etc…..
New user and menu interfaces
Shutter release now selectable for any user set button
The camera uses new 3500mAh ENX-1 Lithium Ion or Lithium Polymer battery
Weight: Around 1400g without battery, memory card or body cap
Release date: 4th quarter of 2011 or 1st quarter of 2012
Price: ?


Nikon D4x: Other features same as D4, but changes below…..
Sensor: 48 or 54 Megapixel full size 3MOS (samelike as Sigma Foveon) or 3-layer JFET-LBCAST sensor (heh heh ? Nikon uses his own strategy for challenging with Canon and should have used some Sony sensors before for showing to challengers they can’t develop good sensors, this is don’t true but Canon and Sony believing it’s true, you know what i mean)
Sensor made by: Nikon…..
Dynamic range: Over 18 F-Stops
Sensitivity: 25-51200 ISO (Boost 102400, 204800, 409600) (IQ* ?)
Light metering: New type 48 or 54 Megapixel light metering sensor
Framerate: 12 frames/sec
Release date: 3rd quarter of 2012
Price: This rumor is not a joke….. like D4x price, its not a cheap joke for amateurs. Nikon states the body is priced over 8000 euros.


Nikon D400x: Other features same as D400, but changes below…..
Sensor: 36 Megapixel full size 3MOS (samelike as Sigma Foveon) or 3-layer JFET-LBCAST
sensor
Sensor made by: ?
Prism: Standard moving prism with Multi-Shot mode (more than 1 exposures in 1 prism move, user selectable number of exposures around 1-9 exposures)
Dynamic range: ?
Sensitivity: 25-25600 ISO (Boost 51200, 102400, 204800, 409600) (IQ* ?)
Light metering: New type 36 Megapixel light metering sensor
Framerate: 9 frames/sec
Release date: 3rd quarter of 2012
Price: ?


Nikon D800: Other features same as D400, but changes below…..
Sensor: 24 Megapixel full size CMOS sensor (Bayer type or new type 1-layer which do not have Bayer filter but anyway needs three pixels to create any color. This new type will be better at high sensitivies)
Sensor made by: Nikon…..
Prism: Standard moving prism with Multi-Shot mode (more than 1 exposures in 1 prism move, user selectable number of exposures around 1-12 exposures)
Dynamic range: Over 14 F-Stops
Sensitivity: 100-51200 ISO (Boost 50, 102400, 204800, 409600) (IQ* over 3 stops better than D3s)
Light metering: New type 24 Megapixel light metering sensor
Framerate: 9 frames/sec (12 frames/sec with new MB-D20 battery grip and ENX-1 Lithium Ion battery)
Release date: 3rd quarter of 2012
Price: I think it’s below 3000€


Nikon D800x: Other features same as D400, but changes below…..
Sensor: 36 Megapixel full size 3MOS (samelike as Sigma Foveon) or 3-layer JFET-LBCAST
sensor
Sensor made by: ?
Prism: Standard moving prism with Multi-Shot mode (more than 1 exposures in 1 prism move, user selectable number of exposures around 1-9 exposures)
Dynamic range: ?
Sensitivity: 50-25600 ISO (Boost 25, 51200, 102400, 204800, 409600) (IQ* ?)
Light metering: New type 36 Megapixel light metering sensor
Framerate: 9 frames/sec
Release date: 3rd quarter of 2012
Price: Even this maybe under 3000€


Nikon D9000: Other features same as D7000, but changes below…..
Sensor: 32 Megapixel full size CMOS sensor (Bayer type)
Sensor filtering: IR & AA
Framerate: 3frames/sec
Release date: 3rd quarter of 2012
Price: Around 1000€

[lamagra]

بهنام جان شما خیلی دل بزرگی داری که فقط هیجان زده شدی!
اگر این هیولاها واقعیت داشته باشن بقیه شرکتها باید برن پشمک و یخ در بهشت بفروشن!...
رزولوشن ها کمی اغراق آمیز به نظر میرسه...

[beh_b7]

بخش یخمک و سایر تنقلات رو شدیدا تایید میشود
اما فکر نکنم این اعداد و ارقام واقعی باشن
- نیکون هیچ فشاری رو از طرف رقیب سنتیش برای همچین افزایشی حس نمیکنه
- با تکنولوژی فعلی D9000 احتمالی نمیتونه با همچین امکاناتی هم قیمت D7000 ارائه بشه
- چرا وقتی میتونن مثلا دوربین Dxxxx رو با سنسور 18 امسال بفروشن بعد 24 رو سال دیگه بعدش 32 رو؛ بیان و این همه ضرر رو متقبل بشن؟

[Anoosh-Em]

البته فقط شایعه است و بیشتر جنبه تفریحی داره خوندنش
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البته بهنام جان هم گفتن که فقط جنبه سرگرمی داره

اما این موردش دیگه از اون حرفها بود :

Camera buffer: Over 4 Gigabytes


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;)
اما یک حسی که با خوندن این مشخصات پیدا کردم ، اینکه یک بچه 5 ساله ام که در بازار جوجه ماشینی دیده و برایش نمیخرند ! و به او میگویند صبر کن فردا برات ماشین کنترلی میخرم ، خریدن ماشین کنترلی مثل این مشخصات رنگارنگ است اما چیزی که واقعیت دارد این است که جوجه ماشینی قرار نیست به این زودی ها خریداری گردد:

Release date: 4th quarter of 2011 or 1st quarter of 2012


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[vbigdeli]

البته این مشخصات لیست شده بسیار بسیار جذاب و در عین حال رویاییست ولی مسئله اینجاست که وقتی اینقدر تفاوت بین D90 و D7000 وجود داره و عملا D7000 در موارد اصلی بحث بدنه مثل سنسور D300s را مغلوب کرده،به احتمال زیاد D400 دوربینی خواهد بود که ارزش 500 هزار تومان تفاوت این دو کلاس را پر کند..مثل همان حد تفاوت هایی که بین D90 و D300s وجود دارد.

[kiavash]

میخواستم بدونم که ایا هنوز d300s.و d90 داره تولید میشه؟ واگه تولید‌میشن پس چطور میشه کسی با وجود d7000 و d5100 بخواد اونارو انتخاب کنه؟ پس‌مطمًنا بایدمنتظر d400 در همین روزا باشیم.

[Mashhadi Vahid]

میخواستم بدونم که ایا هنوز d300s.و d90 داره تولید میشه؟

سلام

طبق لیست دوربینهای موجود در خط تولید نیکون , بله , هر دوی آنها تولید می شوند :
http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/

و اگر غیر از این بود باید آنها را در قسمت آرشیو محصولاتش پیدا می کردید.

البته مدتی قبل سایت NR خبری گذاشته بود مبنی بر توقف تولید D90 که البته لینکش الآن کار نمی کند

http://nikonrumors.com/2011/05/15/nikon-d90-is-now-officially-discontinued.aspx/

واگه تولید‌میشن پس چطور میشه کسی با وجود d7000 و d5100 بخواد اونارو انتخاب کنه؟ پس‌مطمًنا بایدمنتظر d400 در همین روزا باشیم.

D7000 که قیمتش هنوز اختلاف قابل توجهی با D90 دارد و همین مساله میتواند مهمترین دلیل (و دلیل بزرگی) باشد ؛ و D5100 هم علیرغم بهبود احتمالی کیفیت تصویر و فیلمبرداریش, به دلیل نداشتن موتور فوکوس و top LCD و ... در رده پایینتری از D90 قرار میگیرد که ممکن است خریداری که به خوبی از نیازش و توانایی اش آگاه است را به سمت خرید D90 سوق دهد . :)

در مورد D400 هم فکر میکنم در اواخر شهریور امسال شاهد معرفیش باشیم .

[kiavash]

کسی میدونه سنسور d3x تولید نیکون هست یاسونی؟
واگه ساخت نیکون هست پس چرا برای دوربین های دیگش نیکون از سونی همکاری میگیره؟
راستش این مسیله یه‌مقدارتوذوق میزنه.