نگاهی به وضعیت بازار و محصولات عکاسی

[Mashhadi Vahid]

OS 70-200=1/970/000
8-16=1/370/000
85F1.4=1/020/000
البته قيمت شروع براي اكثر بسياري از لنزها (مخصوصا لنزهاي سيگما) به سرعت افت پيدا مي‌كند. مثلا قيمت لنز 50-500 معمولي در شروع كار 1450 دلار بود كه به مرور افت پيدا كرد.

سلام

اگر قیمت همین 3 لنز آخر در همین حدود باشد, فکر نمیکنم هیچ!! نیکونی و کننی خرید سیگما را به برند اصلیش ترجیح بدهد (حداقل در مورد 200-70 و 85 اف 1.4)

[delagah]

سلام؛

يك سايت سوييسي به آدرس:

http://www.fotovideoplus.ch/

لنزهاي جديد سيگما را هم پيش‌فروش مي‌كند.



با توجه به تقريبا 10% گرانتر بودن لنزهاي سيگما در اين سايت (با مقايسه قيمت ساير محصولات موجود) قيمت شروع براي لنزها در ايران تقريبا
OS 17-70=450/000
OS 17-50=850/000
OS 50-500=1/800/000
OS 70-200=1/970/000
8-16=1/370/000
85F1.4=1/020/000

البته قيمت شروع براي اكثر بسياري از لنزها (مخصوصا لنزهاي سيگما) به سرعت افت پيدا مي‌كند. مثلا قيمت لنز 50-500 معمولي در شروع كار 1450 دلار بود كه به مرور افت پيدا كرد.

آمازون 50-500 رو 1600 دلار زده.

با توجه به قیمت 50-500 قدیمی و 70-200 قدیمی برداشت شخصی من این بود که 70-200 لرزه گیر دار جدید هم بایستی احتمالا ارزون تر از 50-500 لرزه گیر دار جدید باشه. چون تفاوت بین نسخه جدید و قدیم هر دو لنز عمدتا مربوط به لرزه گیر و استفاده از المان های جدید FLD بود.

[Kaveh Ghobadi]

البته تا پیش از ورود لنز ها هر قیمتی دیده می شود.اما طبق شنیده ها 70-200 حدود 1100 خواهد بود و 50-500 هم 1400 و 85 اف 1.4 هم 750 هزار تومان

[Vahid]

البته تا پیش از ورود لنز ها هر قیمتی دیده می شود.اما طبق شنیده ها 70-200 حدود 1100 خواهد بود و 50-150 هم 1400 و 85 اف 1.4 هم 750 هزار تومان

سلام
جناب قبادی

50-150؟؟؟ 1400 تومان؟؟؟

[Kaveh Ghobadi]

سلام
جناب قبادی

50-150؟؟؟ 1400 تومان؟؟؟

این قیمت ها حدسیات ! خود شرکت سیگل برای عرضه است و هیچ چیز قطعی وجود ندارد.

[jebrahim]

سلام
جناب قبادی

50-150؟؟؟ 1400 تومان؟؟؟

احتمالا منظور ۵۰-۵۰۰ هست

[Pooyan]

این قیمت ها حدسیات ! خود شرکت سیگل برای عرضه است و هیچ چیز قطعی وجود ندارد.

سلام؛
احتملا منظور 50-500 نيست؟
50-150 II كه خيلي وقته lموجود است با قيمت 750 دلار

[Kaveh Ghobadi]

منظور همان 50-500 لرزه گیر دار بود که به اشتباه 50-150 قید شد.

[Kaveh Ghobadi]

TIPA هم برندگان امسال را مشخص کرد.هرچند از مدت ها پیش برندگان شاخص کاملا معلوم بودند.با دوربینی مثل Canon 7D و یا PEN الیمپوس و یا لنز 70-200 نیکون و .... یقینا برندگان از مدت ها پیش مشخص بودند.

Best Photo Software
Adobe Photoshop CS5


Best Photo Service
Blurb, Inc.


Best DSLR Advanced
Canon EOS 550D / Rebel T2i

Best DSLR Expert
Canon EOS 7D


Best Large Format Printer
Canon imagePROGRAF iPF6350


Best Multifunction Photo Printer
Canon PIXMA MP990

Best Expert Compact Camera
Canon PowerShot G11


Best Fine Art Inkjet Paper
Canson Infinity Baryta Photographique


Best Rugged Compact Camera
Casio Exilim EX-G1

Best Mobile Imaging Device
Kodak Playsport


Best Photo Monitor
Eizo Color Edge CG243W


Best Superzoom Camera
Fujifilm FinePix HS10

Best Imaging Innovation
Fujifilm FinePix REAL 3D Technology


Best Photo Bag
Vanguard Up-Rise, series


Best Medium Format D-System
Hasselblad H4D-40

Best Retail Finishing System
HP Photosmart ML1000D Minilab Printer


Best Photo Kiosk
HiTi Mini Photo Kiosk P510K


Best DSLR Entry Level
Pentax K-x

Best Special Award
The Impossible Project


Best Prestige Camera
Leica M9


Best Photo TV Display
LG Electronics 50/60PK950

Best Storage Backup System
LG NAS N2B1


Best Accessory
Manfrotto RC2 Joystick Heads, series


Best Flash System
Multiblitz PROFILUX PLUS, series

Best Professional Lens
Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II


Best D-SLR Professional
Nikon D3s


Best Compact System Camera Entry Level
Olympus PEN E-PL1

Best Compact System Camera Advanced
Panasonic Lumix DMC-G2


Best Expert Photo Projector
Panasonic PT-AE4000


Best Entry Level Camcorder
Samsung HMX-H205

Best Storage Media
SanDisk Extreme Pro, series


Best Pro Photo Projector
Epson EH-TW5500


Best Photo Scanner
Epson Perfection V600 Photo

Best Expert Photo Printer
Epson Stylus Pro 3880


Best Entry Level Lens
Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM


Best Expert Lens
Sony 28-75mm f/2.8 SAM

Best Compact Camera
Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX5V


Best Photo Frame
Sony DPF-X1000N


Best Expert Camcorder
JVC Everio GZ-HM1

Best Digital Accessory
Wacom Cintiq 21UX

http://www.tipa.com/english/XX_tipa_awards_2010.php

[Kaveh Ghobadi]

گاهی برخی چیز ها را به خوبی می دانیم اما خوب قانع نیستیم!

گاهی نیاز است که یکی ( که فکر می کنیم بهتر می داند ) همان دانسته های ما را تکرار کند!

گاهی همین تکرار می شود چیزی که یقین نامیده می شود!

....

Thom Hogan در آخرین پست در سایت اش یک سری مسائل را از نو گفته است که خواندن اش ضرری ندارد!

http://bythom.com/

Mounts are Locks
April 24 (commentary)--Consider this question: if the Sony A850 had a Nikon F mount instead of an Alpha mount, would you buy it? The answer to that question is almost universally yes amongst the Nikon faithful. An A850 with an F mount would basically mean a simpler D3x at a US$5000 discount. Who wouldn't want that?

But this little example shows you just how much lens mounts are locks to customers. First, the Nikon user generally won't buy an A850 because it either means lens duplication (which probably puts the cost back up to D3x territory), or worse still, a complete abandonment of investment in the Nikon system to make one in the Alpha system. Then what happens when Nikon does something that you want, but Sony doesn't? Do you flip back and forth?

But lens mounts are locks to the competitors trying to dislodge Nikon and Canon, too. Currently, Sony simply doesn't have the total lens kit available to compete with the high-end users that Canon and Nikon do. Yes, I know that we can use older Minolta lenses on the current Sonys, but even with that used lens emporium you're still probably going to find something you want that you can't get. Plus dipping into the used lens market is a risk in and of itself. So Sony's ambitions to dislodge Nikon and Canon in the high-end market are also stymied by the mount.

Now consider the micro 4/3rds cameras. One of the things that is pushing their success amongst current DSLR users is that you can get a mount adapter for virtually any mount. I've got ones for my Leica and Nikon lenses, for instance. The interesting thing is that many people discover that they actually prefer the m4/3 lenses that are available and don't use their adapted lenses as much as they thought they would, but it's the perception that they're not locked in and won't be duplicating lenses that allows them to make the leap.

Okay, so what about Samsung? Well, they don't quite get it, and they're not experiencing the same DSLR user flood looking for a small, compact body that Olympus and Panasonic are. They simply don't see the mount issue that's holding them back. Where Olympus is quietly encouraging mount adapters, Samsung isn't.

So we're back to Sony. In May they launch their mirrorless cameras, which will have a new lens mount. Sony will have an Alpha mount adapter for those cameras, but see above: the Alpha mount adapter isn't exactly going to open up the floodgates. It will encourage Sony Alpha users to buy the Sony mirrorless instead of the Olympus and Panasonic and Samsung offerings, but that's not enough. If I were Sony, I'd be spurring on the makers of Nikon, Leica, Canon, and other adapters too.

Nikon is still basically silent on mirrorless. But I'm betting that they'll not be very interested in the thought of putting anything other than their new lenses on that camera when it appears. Too bad. Proprietary mounts can harm you as much as help you. Being late to the game means you have to have a better story than those that preceded you. The mount is going to be one of the things people look at to see if you've got a better story. By emphasizing only your mount, you keep your faithful from leaving the ship, but you don't necessarily win over new users.

The camera makers are mostly locked into the same game they played with film SLRs, and we know how that turned out: it's a game of keeping losses to a minimum to slow the contraction that happens after market saturation. I know I'm repeating the same thought, but the solution is simple: redefine what a camera is. Right now, Panasonic and Olymus are closer to doing that than Nikon and Canon. But no one has gotten it right yet.